That civilization was dying out because of their inability to deal with natural aggression. They married with other human species to avoid complete extinction. Seth said people who faint at the sight of blood, etc., are those who retain that a bit of trait expressed at a physical level from that civilization now gone.
We choose our abilities before birth. Now, having considered these questions, I surmise that we do much in this area–we choose the specific sperm (I think Seth says that) with the specific physical qualities. Thereafter, I’m sure that changes can be made at the DNA and molecular level. (We can create or uncreate physical objects, open locked doors, etc. so manipulation at this level must happen a lot.)
I hope to one day see a list on the Wikipedia Seth Material page that corroborates Seth as much as possible–this is perhaps the most dramatic one, as it was Seth who first stated that genes can change expression–this at the time was derisively laughed at by science. Now, they have a whole sub-field which they call epigenetics.
Seth talked about information about familial predecessors being passed along. We must remember that there are non-physical aspects of molecules. Likely, they can be compared to icebergs–most of their reality is unseen.
There is going to be a lot of research into genetics, going forward. We must remember the belief systems in play affect greatly the study outcomes.
The genes and chromosomes do not just happen to have within them the precisely definite coded information that will be needed. The data is impressed upon them from within. The identity exists before the form. You could say that the identity, existing in another dimension entirely, plants the seed into the medium of physical reality from which its own material existence will spring.
Session 626, Chapter 5, The Nature of Personal Reality
Chemical imbalances
What I forgot to mention before I went to bed was that of course many (most?) elements that appear in the brain originate in the conscious mind, and not the other way around. This is the case for chemical imbalances (I assume in regard to things like depression and psychosis), for instance.
One of the latest ideas is that certain mental conditions are caused by chemical imbalances.
Supplying these does result in some improvement, but such inequalities do not cause any disease. Your beliefs about the nature of your own reality do. If medication of that sort improves the immediate situation, the inner problem of beliefs must still be worked out. Otherwise other illnesses will be substituted.
Session 641, Chapter 10, The Nature of Personal Reality
(A page or two later.)
Even with so-called mental disorders, however, orientation with the body is very important, as are the individual’s beliefs about his own form and its relationship with others and with time and space. (Pause.) There will often be chemical imbalances in such a situation, unconsciously produced by the individual, sometimes in order to allow him to work out a series of hallucinatory events.
Altering genetic messages
Thoughts and beliefs do indeed bring about physical alterations. They can even — and often do — change genetic messages.
There are diseases that people believe are inherited, carried from one generation to another by a faulty genetic communication. Obviously, many people with, for example, a genetic heritage of arthritis do not come down with the disease themselves, while others indeed are so afflicted. The difference is one of belief.
The people who have accepted the suggestion uncritically that they will inherit such a malady do then seem to inherit it: they experience the symptoms. Actually, the belief itself may have changed a healthy genetic message into an unhealthy one. Ideally, a change of belief would remedy the situation.
People are not simply swung willy-nilly by one negative suggestion or another, however . Each person has an entire body of beliefs and suggestions — and these are quite literally reflected in the physical body itself.
Unless given the nature of ‘time’ we change what was ‘originally’ in our DNA. So many angles to look at all this from. If we can change the past from the present, why not this as well?
Pretty sure there is a quote about illness being healed in that way, by changing the body’s condition in the past, thus altering it in the present as well, but I can’t give you a reference.
As a general answer, isn’t it perhaps better to believe everything CAN be positively influenced by beliefs, no matter how much of a root reality it seems to be? (Obviously without taking stupid risks or doing something obviously detrimental). They are still ulimately root assumptions, not ultimate features of existence. But root assumption are so inbuilt they may be impossible to overcome for all practical purposes - as a rule. There may be some exceptions. What about the session, again I don’t know where, where Seth describes how a firewalker alters the normal laws of physics, so that they don’t get burned when walking across hot coals?
Ahh yes you’re right!! I had forgotten about that! Yes yes! I had this exact thought about DNA and the fluid nature of time myself but I forgot about it in writing my post! Thanks Martin!
Indeed and let’s not forget about the “disentanglement with reality” inner sense. Although that seems to be an extreme case. These types of questions are precisely where I wanted to go with this topic.
Now: apropos of your firewalker, fire of that temperature would indeed burn the flesh if it touched it in your practical reality. IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING, the man’s feet touch the ground but they do not touch the fire. The man believes his feet will not be burned. That belief generates certain actions or events, so that practically speaking, while he sees the flames, and perhaps smells the smoke, the heat of the fire will have no effect–because FOR HIM its character is changed. He ignores the evidences of his senses.
"For him, the area taken up by the fire becomes “dimensionally neutral.” For the time of his walk that space is empty. In a manner of speaking, again, he erases the fire’s practicality, SO THAT IT CAN HAVE NO EFFECT.
"If you have a light bulb lit, it is bright and hot. If you turn the light off, the bulb is still there. Its light
and heat become latent, but PRACTICALLY nonexistent. To your hand a light bulb that is not turned on will be cool. To your eyes it will not be bright. The bulb is still there, but its power is neutralized.
"Our firewalker turns off the fire–for himself, however, though its form, like the turned-off light bulb, remains. His faith is the power that neutralizes the fire.
“You live in a world of root assumptions, to which all agree. They are the ground rules of your reality–but not the ground rules of all realities or of all probabilities. Your firewalker inserts another probability, and hence reacts to and with that reality of the fire in ways that are not considered normal**. I have said his feet touch the ground but not the flames. Actually, what I can only call an invisible shield protects him from the flames, so that his feet and ankles are surrounded by an aura that repels the fire actively. This is a definite force, a psychic force field, if you will. This ability is quite ancient, though little known.”
The Personal Sessions, Book 4 pp. 87-89 (Thanks Rachel)
They might not be applicable comparisons–the firewalk is short in duration so the focus needed to sustain remaining in that probability is short. Freezing to death is not so short and would require hours-long focus…
I brought up in FANS about the possibility of there being a bank of diseases on our plane that people then use for their own purposes in trying to explain why people get sick with diseases that they’ve never heard of before. Kind of like there are basic rules governing this plane like gravity and such.
btw, @Christopher have you ever heard of intermittent fasting? There are variations but I followed the 8/16 method. You restrict yourself to eating only for 8 hours a day and then fast for 16 hours. So lets say you have your first meal at 10 am, you can eat up until 6pm.(8 hours) After 6pm, you cant eat anything again until 10 am the next day (16 hours)
The information I read was very interesting. It also spoke about how to idea that you have to be constantly feeding your body for your metabolism to be going is incorrect. It also mentioned how breakfast actually isnt an important meal.
I tried it, but didn’t actually weigh myself, and I found that after a day or so I was waking up with alot of energy. I also thought I would be starving but I wasnt since a lot of the fasting happened when I was sleep. It does require conscious attention because after a week I forgot that I was on it and just slid into normal eating.
The fact remains that there are probable past events that “can still happen” within your personal previous experience. A new event can literally be born in the past — “now.”
On a grand scale this rarely occurs in such a way that you perceive it — and you had better underline that whole last part.
A new belief in the present, however, can cause changes in the past on a neuronal level. You must understand that basically time is simultaneous. Present beliefs can indeed alter the past. In some cases of healing, in the spontaneous disappearance of cancer, for instance, or of any other disease, certain alterations are made that affect cellular memory, genetic codes, or neuronal patterns in the past.
In such instances there is, as easily as I can explain it, a reaching into deep biological structures as they existed at one time; at that point the probabilities are altered, and the condition erased in your present — but also in your past.
(Pause at 10:01.) A sudden or intense belief in health can indeed “reverse” a disease, but in a very practical way it is a reversal in terms of time. New memories are inserted in place of the old ones, as far as cells are concerned under such conditions. This kind of therapy happens quite frequently on a spontaneous basis when people rid themselves of diseases they do not even know they possess.
Learning is not simply passed on from living tissue to living tissue — this your biologists have discovered — but it is also passed on through the body’s present corporeal reality, sometimes entirely changing the messages to past cells, that in your terms no longer exist.
Session 654, Chapter 14, The Nature of Personal Reality
After re-reading NoPR and making some highlights, I encountered a single sentence that was quite the breakthrough for me on this topic. Here it is:
In somewhat the same manner, your physical brain is a doorway that triggers activity in your mind. Your beliefs then are largely responsible for the areas of the brain that you activate, and for the resulting nonphysical action of the mind.
Session 671, Chapter 20, The Nature of Personal Reality
I feel like this says everything. Mind is of course the origin, but mind creates brain which can also again shape the mind. Thoughts? Do you guys find this quote as evocative and helpful as I did?
A follow-up, I’ve also found this quote enlightening:
The mechanics are not important, but as dreaming is partially caused by chemical poisons that make dreaming a necessity for physical survival, so there are other mechanisms of this kind that are actually doorways, built within and natural to the physical mechanism, that at the same time necessitate experience upon other fields of reality.
—TES3 Session 96 October 12, 1964
Physical existence is setup quite specifically for our benefit/growth. It makes sense why we would make it this way in the first place, and choose to be born into it.
Any idea what “chemicals” seth is talking about here, do you think he means byproducts of the body / waste or chemicals from the exterior environment Chris?
Now: This extended period, given to waking consciousness without rest periods, builds up chemicals in the blood that are discharged in sleep. But in the meantime they make the body sluggish and retard conscious concentration. The long sleep period to which you are accustomed then does become necessary. A vicious circle then is formed. This forces overstimulations during the night, increasing the body’s work, making it perform continuously over an extended time physical purifications that ideally would be taken care of in briefer periods of rest.
At certain times throughout my life, I have slept extremely long hours in a day. These periods can last weeks, months, or in a few cases, years. Could you clarify for me why I might require these extra long sleep time - and dream time? I have always had very vivid and often lucid dreams. While I am in one of my " long sleep" rhythms, I often live life through my dreams - enjoying them so much that I prefer them to my physically active times. It’s as if I decide to spend long periods in a library, albeit a “mental” library. If I am interpreting Seth’s quote about needing longer periods of sleep to purge accumulated chemicals being a vicious cycle, I must be on a vicious cycle carousel at these times. Do you, or anyone, have an idea why I may choose to spend so much time on that particular carousel?
I don’t think I can answer your question very well. But I do know it’s common with depression, or could be diet related, and as Seth said, yes, there is a cycle. It can take some determination to break out of that cycle. I have found what often works (and incidentally what works well for completely shifting a sleep schedule) is to begin sleeping anytime you’re tired but only for a maximum of 2 hours (even a few minutes can be quite revitalizing). So your day/night quickly turns into a a series of successive short naps.
This gives your entire circadian rhythm, sleep toxin (not the best word as these are in essence intentional toxins) situation suddenly great flexibility, and then from this flexible pattern you can ease into a sleep pattern more to your liking. (A weird analogy is think of breaking your sleep up into pieces to fit through a small spot, and then reassemble on the other side.)
Shifting from a schedule based, 8 hours a night sleep belief to a organic, need approach is one that I still haven’t found what is ideal for me. And I agree that responding to my own natural rhythm is key. It’s just that, in combination of sorting though some of my non-serving beliefs, some of this sleep is being used to resolve issues that my conscious can’t seem to get a handle on. I’m constantly checking to see if my sleep is a natural response to my body, a break from my waking issues, all the while, while focused on improving my integrity with my inner Self!
Thanks, Chris. Actually, since I have been healing a broken ankle for the past week, I am doing as you say: sleeping whenever I’m tired whether it’s night or day. But I usually sleep much more than 2 hours. More like three or four. I’m going to start setting an alarm for two hours later and see what evolves. What fun! A new project!
